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Whatchuwant's Obsessive Symbiant & PB Research

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:18 pm
by Whatchuwant
Since I've been keeping a speadsheet with all the symbiants I have in stock, I decided to fill it in with the PBs that drop them, and fill in the ones I've never looted.

So, if you're looking for a symbiant, this shoudl be a quick lookup source. Most of the info comes from AO Pocket, but since it isn't really kept up-to-date, these lists should become more accurate.

Please note that some symbs weren't listed on AO Pocket at all, so if you're inclined to take notes about what PBs drop what symbs when you all spawn any, maybe we can fill in some of the blanks.

I also see some PBs listed that aren't available, or have a different loot list when compared to the !pb command on Aoobot.

I've also got some symbs that are listed as TNH (The Night Heart) drops, but I've never looted from there, so there muxh be some PBs that also drop some of these. I'm inclined to think that all symbs ql 280 & lower can drop from a PB and TNH. All of the ql 290 & 300s were listed as TNH only, so I did not include them. I also didn't bother with any below ql 70, since most of those are straight drops from dynas in SL, or are so pathetically low that no-one should every really want them.

If anyone can think of additional useful data to incluse in these lists, let me know.

***** IMPORTANT *****

This is not a list of what I havein stock. This list includes symbs that I have never looted. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the listed PB for all of these, but I will add a "confirmed" note for any and all that I can reliably account for.[/i]

Extermination Symbiants - NT, Crat, MP

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:19 pm
by Whatchuwant
Extermination Symbiants - NT, Crat, MP

Animated - ql 70 - lvl 52, treatment 420, abilities 159

Brain........................Circumbendibum
Left Hand..................The Elysian Soul Dredge
Ocular......................Circumbendibum
Right Arm.................Brutal Soul Dredge
Right Wrist................The Talus Suzerain
Thigh........................The Elysian Soul Dredge

Moving - ql 80 - lvl 59, treatment 479, abilities 181

Ear...........................Brutal Soul Dredge
Right Hand................Ungulera
Right Wrist................The Talus Suzerain
Thigh........................The Elysian Soul Dredge

Vibrating - ql 90 - lvl 66, treatment 538, abilities 203

Brain........................Circumbendibum
Ear...........................Brutal Soul Dredge
Feet..........................Ashmara Ravin
Left Arm...................The Dune Suzerain
Left Wrist..................Ungulera
Right Wrist................The Talus Suzerain
Thigh........................Not Listed on AOPocket
Waist........................Ungulera

Breathing - ql 100 - lvl 73, treatment 597, abilities 226

Brain........................Brutal Soul Dredge
Chest.......................Brutal Soul Dredge
Left Hand..................Marem
Right Hand................Not Listed on AOPocket
Thigh........................The Elysian Soul Dredge

Operative - ql 110 - lvl 81, treatment 656, abilities 249

Chest........................The Dune Suzerain
Feet..........................Ashmara Ravin
Left Hand...................Marem
Ocular.......................The Dune Suzerain

Prevailing - ql 120 - lvl 88, treatment 715, abilities 271

Brain.........................Iunmin
Ear............................Iunmin
Left Arm....................Awl
Left Wrist...................Beatific Spirit
Right Arm..................Auger
Right Hand.................Beatific Spirit
Right Wrist.................Borer
Waist.........................Borer

Residing - ql 130 - lvl 95, treatment 774, abilities 293

Chest........................Auger
Feet..........................Ashmara Ravin
Left Wrist...................Beatific Spirit
Right Hand.................Ignis Fatuus

Running - ql 140 - lvl 103, treatment 833, abilities 316

Chest........................Awl
Right Hand.................Beatific Spirit & Ignis Fatuus
Thigh.........................Ignis Fatuus

Surviving - ql 150 - lvl 110, treatment 892, abilities 339

Brain.........................Iunmin
Left Hand...................Marem
Ocular.......................Adobe Suzerain
Right Arm..................Auger
Waist.........................Borer

Working - ql 160 - lvl 117, treatment 951, abilities 361

Left Arm.....................Awl
Right Hand..................Ignis Fatuus
Right Wrist..................Borer

Active - ql 170 - lvl 125, treatment 1011, abilities 383

Brain..........................Iunmin
Chest.........................Auger & Awl
Feet...........................Srahir
Left Arm.....................Awl
Left Wrist....................Beatific Spirit
Right Hand..................Ignis Fatuus
Right Wrist..................Borer
Thigh..........................Marem
Waist..........................Beatific Spirit

Awakened - ql 180 - lvl 132, treatment 1070, abilities 406

Brain..........................Quondam
Chest.........................The Penumbral Spirit Hunter
Ear.............................Morrow
Left Arm.....................The Penumbral Spirit Hunter
Left Hand....................Breaker Teuvo
Left Wrist....................Brutal Rafter
Thigh..........................Breaker Teuvo

Enduring - ql 190 - lvl 139, treatment 1129, abilities 429

Ear.............................Morrow
Left Arm......................Brutal Rafter
Left Hand....................The Dryad Shuffle
Left Wrist....................Brutal Rafter
Right Hand..................Bagaspati
Feet............................The Dryad Shuffle

Growing - ql 200 - lvl 146, treatment 1188, abilities 451

Brain...........................Quondam
Chest..........................Brutal Rafter & The Penumbral Spirit Hunter
Ear..............................Morrow
Left Hand.....................The Dryad Shuffle
Left Wrist.....................Brutal Rafter
Ocular.........................Anya
Right Arm....................The Penumbral Spirit Hunter
Thigh...........................Breaker Teuvo

Living - ql 210 - lvl 154, treatment 1342, abilities 683

Ear..............................The Penumbral Spirit Hunter
Right Hand...................Breaker Teuvo

Persisting - ql 220 - lvl 161, treatment 1406, abilities 716

Brain............................Quondam
Chest...........................Brutal Rafter
Feet.............................Srahir
Left Hand......................The Dryad Shuffle & TNH
Left Wrist......................??? & TNH
Right Hand....................Breaker Teuvo

Vigorous - ql 230 - lvl 168, treatment 1470, abilities 749

Brain.............................Morrow
Ear................................Bagaspati
Right Hand.....................The Dryad Shuffle
Right Wrist.....................Bagaspati
Waist.............................Bagaspati

Effective - ql 240 - lvl 176, treatment 1533, abilities 781

Ocular...........................Quondam
Right Arm......................The Worm King
Waist.............................Aray

Excited - ql 250 - lvl 183, treatment 1724, abilities 1063

Brain.............................Morrow
Chest............................The Worm K
Ear................................TNH
Left Arm........................??? & TNH
Left Wrist.......................TNH
Right Arm......................TNH
Waist.............................Aray

Vital - ql 260 - lvl 190, treatment 1797, abilities 1106

Chest.............................Aray
Feet...............................Hadur
Right Arm.......................TNH
Waist..............................Aray

Cognizant - ql 270 - lvl 198, treatment 1870, abilities 1149

Brain...............................Sashu & TNH
Ear..................................TNH
Feet.................................K
Left Arm...........................K
Left Wrist..........................K
Ocular..............................Sashu
Thigh...............................TNH

Alert - ql 280 - lvl 205, treatment 1942, abilities 1191

Left Arm...........................TNH
Left Hand..........................TNH
Left Wrist..........................Rallies Fete
Ocular..............................Agent of Decay
Right Arm.........................TNH
Waist................................TNH

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:56 pm
by Whatchuwant
Infantry Symbiants - Advy, Enf, MA, Keeper

Animated - ql 70 -

Ear..............................Silver Fang
Left Arm......................Circumbendibus
Left Wrist.....................Scratch
Ocular.........................Black Fang - Silver Fang
Right Hand...................Scratch
Right Wrist...................Black Fang
Waist...........................Black Fang

Moving - ql 80 -

Chest...........................Circumbendibus
Feet.............................Circumbendibum
Left Arm.......................Circumbendibus
Left Hand......................Screech
Right Arm.....................Circumbendibus
Right Hand....................Scratch
Right Wrist....................Black Fang
Thigh............................Screech

Vibrating - ql 90 -

Brain............................Ashmara Ravin
Chest...........................Ooze
Ear...............................Khemhet
Feet.............................Circumbendibum
Left Arm.......................The Archbile Queen
Left Hand......................Not Listed on AOPocket
Right Arm.....................Wacky Suzerain
Thigh............................Screech

Breathing - ql 100 -

Ear...............................Contorted Soul Dredge
Left Arm........................White
Left Wrist.......................The Achbile Guardian
Right Arm......................Gunk
Right Hand.....................Screech
Waist.............................Satkamear

Operative - ql 110 -

Brain..............................Lethargic Spirit
Feet...............................The Dune Suzerain
Left Arm.........................The Numb One - White
Waist..............................Loltonunon


Prevailing - ql 120 -

Feet................................Spiritless Soul Dredge
Left Hand........................Gracious Soul Dredge
Ocular.............................Ignis Fatuus
Right Arm........................Thunderous Chimera
Right Hand.......................Not Listed on AOPocket
Right Wrist.......................Viscious Visitant


Residing - ql 130 -

Brain..............................Misery
Ear.................................Bhinaji Navi
Left Hand........................Spiritless Soul Dredge
Left Wrist........................The Abysmal Lord
Right Arm........................Bellowing Chimera
Right Wrist......................The Adonian Soul Dredge
Waist..............................The Adonis Spirit Master

Running - ql 140 -

Brain..............................Blight
Chest.............................The Scheolian Soul Dredge
Ear.................................Marly Suzerain
Left Arm.........................The Enrapt One
Left Hand........................Spiritless Soul Dredge
Ocular............................Marem
Right Hand......................Gracious Soul Dredge

Surviving - ql 150 -

Feet................................Adobe Suzerain
Left Hand........................Spiritless Soul Dredge
Left Wrist........................The Brobdingnagian Mother
Right Wrist......................The Watchdog
Thigh..............................Gracious Soul Dredge

Working - ql 160 -

Feet................................Adobe Suzerain
Left Wrist........................The Stupendous Breeder
Right Hand......................Gracious Soul Dredge
Thigh..............................Gracious Soul Dredge

Active - ql 170 -

Chest..............................Kaoline Suzerain
Feet................................Adobe Suzerain
Thigh..............................Adobe Suzerain
Waist..............................The Proprietrix

Awakened - ql 180 -

Brain...............................Kaleva
Chest..............................Skulky - Slinky
Left Wrist.........................Eidolean Soul Dredge
Right Arm........................The Peristaltic Aversion
Thigh...............................Sampsa
Waist...............................The Abyssal Widow

Enduring - ql 190 -

Feet.................................Anya
Left Hand.........................Anya
Right Hand.......................Sampsa

Growing - ql 200 -

Chest...............................Lurky
Ear..................................Old Salty
Left Hand..........................Anya
Left Wrist..........................Glitter
Ocular..............................Zoetic Oak

Living - ql 210 -

Chest...............................Lurky & Skulky
Ear..................................Old Salty - Smee
Left Arm...........................Moochy
Ocular..............................Alatyr
Right Arm.........................The Peristaltic Abomination
Right Hand.......................Sampsa
Right Wrist.......................The Dredge Driver
Waist...............................Captured Spirit

Persisting - ql 220 -

Chest..............................Shiver
Left Arm..........................Shake
Ocular.............................Imk
Right Arm........................Toss
Right Hand......................Sampsa
Thigh..............................Sampsa
Waist..............................Odqan

Vigorous - ql 230 -

Left Hand.........................Anya
Ocular.............................Juma
Right Arm........................Churn & Quake
Waist...............................The Infernal Soul Dredge

Effective - ql 240 -

Feet................................The Maggot Lord
Left Wrist.........................Exsequiae
Right Arm........................Churn
Waist...............................Ho

Excited - ql 250 -

Ear..................................Taille Frees
Ocular.............................Ushqa
Right Arm.........................Lya
Right Hand.......................The Maggot Lord
Right Wrist.......................The Indomitable Chimera
Thigh...............................The Maggot Lord

Vital - ql 260 -

Chest..............................The Dryad Demigod
Feet................................Quondam
Ocular.............................Haqa
Left Arm..........................Aesma Daeva
Right Hand.......................The Maggot Lord
Right Wrist.......................Ats (Ats`usk)
Thigh...............................Quondam - The Maggot Lord

Cognizant - ql 270 -

Chest...............................Pazuzu
Ear..................................Sasabonsam
Feet.................................Sashu - TNH
Left Arm...........................Arch Bigot Biap
Thigh...............................TNH

Alert - ql 280 -

Brain...............................Devourer of Scheol
Ear..................................Devourer of Scheol
Ocular.............................Devourer of Scheol
Right Wrist.......................TNH & ???

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:56 pm
by Whatchuwant
Control Symbiants - Trader, Crat, MP, Engie

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:58 pm
by Whatchuwant
Artillery Symbiants - Trader, Advy, Agent, Soldier, Fixer

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:58 pm
by Whatchuwant
Support Symbiants - Trader, Advy, MP, MA, Keeper, Doc, Fixer

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:29 pm
by Sorhan
Nice one Whatchu. :)

I'm wondering though... what do you think about building the list from scratch using only our personal PB experience, rather than starting from AO Pocket lists?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
by Whatchuwant
I thought about that, but this level of obsessiveness started when I began compiling my list of which PBs I need to re-stock symbiants that I've sold out of.

I figure it'll be easier to "confirm" the accuracy of 98% of these, and make note of the discrepancies for the other 2%. I'm also goint to lookup all of these in the Auno.org database, and make note of any listed there that I haven't accounted for yet, so maybe it'll be 97%/3%.

Of course, the pack-rat in me now officially wants to have one-of-every-symbiant-the-drops-in-game :cry:

I think the only thing we might gain from a from-scratch approach would be compiling drop-rate frequency, but I think most of us have a decent sense of what those are (i.e. if the PB drops a wrist, you get 6, ha ha)

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:05 pm
by Sorhan
Hmmmmm... what about copying over the lists from AO Pocket, and marking the ones we personally confirm or add (bolding perhaps?)

Drop frequency would be nice to know (I know Sho was calculating them on his PB spreadsheet) but sooo much work :P

Also, fixers can use sup symbs, fixed for you ;)

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:30 pm
by Whatchuwant
It's prolly easier for me to keep track in columns on my spreadsheet. Of course, if Soz would enable HTML code for this section fo the forum, I could add a lot here ;)

I'm planning on keeping full stats for every PB I spawn for a while, or at least for the first 5 of each unless I think more data is needed for a specific one. Thinking that if we can get a good level of confidence what does or doesn't drop within 5 spawns, we should get a reasonable common/uncommon/rare ratio.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:41 pm
by Sorhan
What HTML tags would you use? I see there is an option for it but should probably check with Soz to make sure it won't crash the forums or something. :P

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:41 pm
by Whatchuwant
if I had access to html, I could create a table layout that visually reproduces the spreadsheet I'm working from.

as it is, these lists are tons longer than I was expecting them to be...

and nerf being too busy at work doing real work stuff to get these finished today :cry:

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:20 am
by Sozinho
The thing with having HTML enabled is security. I can check if it is possible to enable html for moderators only, or something like that.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:06 am
by Khaitlene
My own experience:

Killed Zoetic Oak 25 times and 0 drops on 230 brain. 1 220 Brain.

Killed Breaker Tuevo 35 times. 1st 5 kills dropped 1 220 r arm, next 30 0, than last kill dropped 2 off same loot.

Srahir drops 190 brains 1 every other kill or so. Drops 210 Brain, 1 every 5 or so. Oculars are a bit more rare.

Killed Alatyr about 5 times, dropped 3 180 chests.

Killed Maggot Lord about 10 times, dropped 3 240 Feet.